Aeroplan’s Mini-RTW – Part 4 – Airlines with No Fuel Surcharge – Asia

Thanks for all this. As for a RTW, here is a suggestion:

Toronto to any European city on airline without fuel charges (stopover) to Japan (destination) to Vancouver or San Francisco (stopover) to Toronto

Sorry, let’s try 3 passengers, business class. Any dates that you think might work.

Hmm, how about somewhere in Eastern Europe and South-east Asia?

Just starting to search flight routes for two in business, starting around December 14-15, I had it going something like this yyz-yvr (stop one or two days, family visit)-syd (destination, five days)-per-joh-dur (stop, eight day)-joh-iad-yyz . Of course your thoughts much appreciated. Still having a hard time with A/C and permitted mileage.

I’m having a hard time looking for flights in business for 3 adults and 1 infant under 2. Would appreciate your help with hit. My travel dates are flexible – anytime between beginning of Nov 2016 to end of Mar 2017. These are the destinations Toronto –> Bangkokg –> Singapore –> Hong Kong –> Toronto. I’m flexible with going to Bangkokg or Singapore first, but would like to end my trip with Hong Kong. Preferably, I’d like to stay in for 5 days in Bangkok and Singapore and around 1 month in Hong Kong.

I’m looking to book a mini-RTW in mid-December 2017 in Economy class:

1) YYZ (Toronto, Canada) -> CTS (Sapporo, Japan – stopover)
2) CTS -> TPE (Taipei, Taiwan – stopover)
3) TPE -> HKG (destination)
4) HKG -> YYZ (returning early January 2018)

I believe this is doable, but I think I need to connect through Tokyo (NRT or HND, just connect, not a planned stopover) to get to CTS, and I’m hoping this doesn’t break any rules about direction of flight path / stopping in same city twice, etc.

Any idea if this will work? Also, I hear HKG is now no-YQ as a destination?

Appreciate your thoughts!

Hey, I’m looking to do a RTW next year with my family, I’m only 50k points short of the 300k total that I will need for 3 economy tickets.
Initially my thought is to have South Africa as my destination, since I’m based in Vancouver that would give me the longest MPM. I was hoping to have a stopover in Europe, Destination in South Africa and the other stopover in Asia.

Do you think this is doable? I have been playing around with the MPMs and it seems ok. Do you have any flights/routes to suggest?

Thanks.

Hi Jayce, to do the mini RTW, do you have to call Aeroplane? I can only seem to do two cities from on-line booking. thanks, Lisa

Hi! Thanks for your help!
I’m wondering if it’s possible to go from Vancouver –> Osaka —> any city in Italy –> Vancouver.
We’ll be doing some traveling around Osaka and Italy, so whichever major city in Italy will work for us.

Thanks so much!

Hi Jayce, really thankful for your website! Appreciate you sharing your passion with everyone! I have 50K Aeroplan points and 150K MR points and want to get your advice on going to Nairobi (NBO) from YVR. Unfortunately, there aren’t many good guides to get to Africa. Also, I’m trying to make a pit stop in Montreal, and fly business class. This is what i got so far:

Wednesday February 7 YVR to MTL AC 300 Direct
Friday February 9 MTL to NBO Swiss LX87 Swiss LX296 ZUR transfer
Monday February 26 NBO to YVR TK 608 TK17 TK8694 IST YYZ YVR route

I haven’t called in to check if these seats are available yet, but they do show up in Aeroplan’s system when I do one way search. Do you think this is the most optimal route? Would appreciate your feedback, thanks!

Hi Jayce,

First, thanks for a great article and website!
I wonder if the following routing would be allowed using aeroplan miles:

SYD-YVR-LHR one way in Business and how best to find it?

Dont mind additonal layovers if neccesary, my goal is to get from SYD to LHR with a 23 hr layover in YVR.

Thanks in advance!

Hello! Thanks for the valuable information. I am trying to plan a miniRTW trip to New Zealand with stops in Fiji and/or the Cook Islands and/or Tahiti. I am having difficulty. We are wanting to travel January through April in 2019 in Premium Economy. Any help you can give us would be appreciated.. Many thanks!

Hello Jayce, very informative blog about mini-rtw. Very thankful for you doing this and will be visiting your blog more frequent. I am trying to plan a mini rtw trip some time near the end of 2018 for my family of 4 and would like some advice on which specific routes I should travel in order to maximize our trip.

The plan is to visit Bali (DPS) for 3-4 days, Singapore-Malaysia (SIN) for another 3-4 days and then to Ho Chi Minh city (SGN) for about 2 weeks and then back to Toronto (YYZ). So far from my research and searching on Aeroplan, I don’t think there will be a problem, but I was wondering if I am able to add in another destination such as Sydney (SYD) to the trip and whether or not this is even possible? I know we are allowed 2 stops as you’ve mentioned, but any possible way?

Also planning to travel with EVA Air, Air China & Singapore Airlines mostly.

Thanks again for your help.

Hi Jayce,

I am leaving this late, but I am looking to book a mini-RTW with Aeroplan in August 2018 with the following itinerary – YOW- NRT-HKG-ICN-YOW. There is a 24 hr layover in TPE between NRT and HKG. Approx 5 nights in each destination. Would you have any advice or suggest any other routings that would be either be more efficient or have less fees.

It is around $300 per ticket and I am looking to book for 3 people.

Tks,

Howard

Hi there, thanks for the write up on how to do the mini-RTW trips and avoid YQ. I’m a bit confused on when you said that it is illegal to charge YQ when travelling to Japan. I notice that the flights with Air Canada to Japan still have higher fees than other airlines. Why is that?

Hi Pointsnerd,

I noticed one of the rules of the mini-RTW is to hit two continents… Does that mean I am unable to do a mini-RTW of just Europe? I’m planning two tickets to Europe 1 both in business class and want to hit Munich, London, and Paris as stopovers (think Munich would be destination?) and have an up to 24hr layover in Amsterdam, Zurich, and maybe Brussels? I am able to to start/end in either YOW, YUL, or YYZ. I noticed in Lisa’s redemption in the Redeem Awards series, she was going to Milan and open-jaw to Geneva and fly back to YUL/YOW. On the way back, she could have connected through Istanbul. In that case, would Instanbul count as the destination? My issue is that I am trying to avoid connecting through Istanbul as I am worried if Istanbul counts as the destination, I am only able to have 2 stopovers (can’t hit Munich, London, and Paris). Also, using the star alliance map, there doesn’t seem to any easy way to hit London. Could I possibly do YUL-ZRH-MUC-LHR-AMS-CDG-BRU-IAD-YUL? I am also open to connecting through IST or ZRH again as I know those are major hubs for getting back to Eastern Canada easily… but I’m not sure of the rules of going through the same city twice in a routing (ZRH) or if I hit IST (will it be destination?)..

Also, the in Part 1, hitting two continents… my plan was to only hit Europe..would this still count as mini-RTW and qualify for up to 2 stopovers and 1 destination?

Thank you for the posts, great information! My brother and I are planning a mini-RTW for the last week of October, with the following criteria:

– booking Economy, routing needs to have availability for both of us to travel together
– goal is to circle the globe, hitting all 6 inhabited continents, and squeeze in as many stops as possible (especially new countries, even if they’re just airport stops), so the more stops the better
– many of the destinations are flexible, the only firm ones are Dubai/Hong Kong/Adelaide (they can be a stopover or longer <24hr layover)
– fit everything within 7-8 days (starting October 21st)

Any suggestions on potential roadblocks, or recommendations on how to best coordinate? I've pieced together what looks like a series of available flights/stops (with the caveat that it appears we can get to Adelaide, but can't easily get out – so it might require an open jaw to hop between Adelaide and Sydney, in which case we can hop a short flight on our own):

YOW-FRA-IST-ADD-DXB-BKK-HKG-TPE-SIN-ADL / SYD-IAH-BOG-UIO-PTY-ORD-YOW

An alternative (that might be better in terms of MPM) might be something like:

YOW-FRA-IST-CAI-DXB-BKK-HKG-SIN-ADL / SYD-LAX-SAL-UIO-PTY-ORD-YOW

Does this look valid (MPM for Adelaide appears to be 16844 from YOW)? Any likely problems with the open jaw, or other shuffling needed to stay within the various restrictions? Are we even going around in the right direction (the routing above went east because it allowed a routing into Adelaide, which I couldn't seem to find going west)?

Any suggestions/tips would be greatly appreciated!

Hi Colin
After reading your post I felt exhausted to the extent of needing sleep!
While I admire your plans, do you not think that one week is a little short to actually enjoy your trip?
Probably you are considerably younger than me, ( as most points fans seem to be) but would you consider stretching things out a little to get more quality into your travel.
I am actually putting together a mini round the world also but I am doing it in two parts.
One will be NA to Europe then add an open jaw so that the next part will be Aust to NA and home.
There will be a few months in between and I will return from Europe and get back to Aust. using other points systems.ie Avios from Europe to NA and Alaska from NA to Aust. then pick up the mini round the world.
OK , I am semi retired and can do this. But 7 days ?………….wow!